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- August 11, 2012 at 9:28 am#27672AnonymousInactive
I’m prepared to be blasted so fire away. I planned to keep this to myself for that very reason, but since honesty is one of those things I’m working on I decided to share.
My family has celebrated Octoberfest for years with a big party and all our friends and craploads of beer. Now that we are living in Europe it seemed only logical (and extremely exciting) to go to the real deal in Munich. Can you see where I’m headed with this problem?
I booked the flight and hotel during my fogged belief that I could control my drinking and going to one big party would be OK. :jail
Everyone has been looking forward to it, even me. Problem is that now that it’s looming (we leave Sept 15 – my 3 month sober day) I’m getting more nervous. I don’t plan to drink, because if I do I might die. I’m just scared about totally ruining it for my hub. I don’t want to be in a pizzy mood the whole time because I can’t drink and I don’t want to not go. Soooo….
I feel stuck.August 11, 2012 at 9:43 am#106454AnonymousInactive
One more thought. I know some may say, don’t worry about the future, just worry about today. Well I can’t hardly wake up in Germany and say, “Oh, this is the 24 hour period in which I go to the biggest beer festival in the world. Don’t drink today.” Ya know what I mean. I don’t mean to sound argumentative, just frustrated.August 11, 2012 at 9:50 am#106460AnonymousInactive
I’ve never been to Oktoberfest but I can imagine……..
There’s an answer that’s right for you, and you’ll know it when you see it. If you’re able to take on a beer festival, if you’re ready for it, you’ll know. If you’re not ready for it, you’ll know too. If you’re not ready for it and you go to “please” others then it’ll be really hard for you in all sorts of different ways.August 11, 2012 at 9:52 am#106461AnonymousInactive
But yeah, I would also have said “Keep it in the day”. Some days do present us with more challenges than others.August 11, 2012 at 10:07 am#106455AnonymousInactive
If you’re able to take on a beer festival, if you’re ready for it, you’ll know.
So do you believe that it’s possible to attend without jeapordizing my sobriety? I’ve already done lots of things on the NO-NO list that have not affected me or my determination (concerts, bars, socializing with drinkers). Maybe I’m making this into a bigger deal than it is and only setting myself up to fail.August 11, 2012 at 10:17 am#106462AnonymousInactive
I believe that my sobriety is mine alone – no-one and nothing else can make me drink, but at the same time, if I my compulsion were to return, there’s very little I can do to resist it. But my sobriety is completely personal. It doesn’t matter what other people do. I just have to remember – I’m an alcoholic. If I pick up that first drink – well, I don’t know if I’d ever stop again. In any moment, in any situation, I do whatever I need to do to make sure that I don’t drink.
I can’t answer for you – only you can answer for you. I can say I went to a beer festival a couple of weeks ago with a large group and had a fine time, and never once felt unsettled. But I also KNOW – with all my heart C’est, that if I am in a situation where I feel unsettled, I get the hell out. That’s just how my brain works now. Anything that threatens my sobriety today is a no-no. I just walk away. No hesitation, no doubt. No fighting, no internal argument. I feel off, I go and do something else.August 11, 2012 at 11:35 am#106453AnonymousInactive
c’est: going to a drunken beerfest will, if nothing else, help confirm why you want to be sober. I grew up in munich..i drank there at more fests (oktober and otherwise) than a person needs to..and they are a huge bore.
if this is what you still want to do and think it will be fun, then go and by all means, let it be fun. if you don’t want to go, allow yourself the latitutde to change your plans. you are a sober adult.August 11, 2012 at 12:09 pm#106463AnonymousInactive
That’s what I was trying to say.
lol..August 11, 2012 at 12:52 pm#106451AnonymousInactive
Good to share this c’est, I can’t add anything more than Paul and Miss communicat – both sound pretty solid to me. I have also been in lots of drinking situations, parties … not really a problem because I was never going to drink there, not on my agenda anymore, I have accepted that for me. Yep, I have since found most of those things a bit boring, at least once people have had too much and the effects of the alcohol start to show.
I am sure you’ll do fine,
love and peace,
Brigid 🙂August 11, 2012 at 1:29 pm#106448AnonymousInactive
Oh boy… I live in a ‘mock’ Bavarian Village in WA called Leavenworth. We have two weekends of Oktoberfest every year. It’s a huge drunkfest, and many think it shames the town. I’ve never wanted to go, even when I was drinking. But then, large crowds make me extremely anxious. Judging by what you’ve already accomplished, I think you will be just fine. I cook at a tavern, and see people slobbering drunk, and it really reaffirms why I don’t want to drink anymore. But, I think you should also be able to decide not to go, and not feel guilty about it either. I certainly can relate to your dilemma.August 11, 2012 at 2:17 pm#106457AnonymousInactive
Here is a suggestion. Go to your doctor, get a prescription of anta abuse. You need to build it up in your system for it to be really effective. Build it up.
Know very clearly that while on anta abuse you will become VERY ILL if you drink. Try it out with a one ounce shot if you don’t believe just how ill. Commit to remaining on the anta abuse. It takes the choice away.
Know that according to the literature, I have no reason to dispute it, I tried the one ounce thing when I first got on it… literature was totally right about the resulting illness, then you can attend knowing you cannot drink.
Just a thought. I know I regularly go to the clubhouse at the golf course on men’s night where many (think majority) are drinking. Some are over drinking, most are socially drinking. I sit there with my coke and have dinner, wait for the prizes and be social, then I leave. I do not drink.
That one ounce challenge as I like to think of it is very effective. When I needed to take anta abuse I took the pill every morning. I don’t question it. End of story. It also takes several days for anta abuse to leave your system once it is in your system. So it isn’t like, oh, didn’t take the pill today I can drink… tried that too… WRONG.
Did I mention I was quite stubborn when I first tried anta abuse? 🙂 LMAO I tried everything b/c at the time I did not want to quit. Now I am so glad I tried everything b/c it was that process that led me to really want my sobriety. I saw the insanity for what it truly was.
Peace, LeviAugust 11, 2012 at 3:04 pm#106447AnonymousInactive
Make a point of smelling the first vomitted lager you see (which shouldn’t take too long!). I had lager vomit passed to me on a plate when I was waitressing and it took around 10 years for me to be able to be near the smell of lager again!
When it’s someone else’s, when you smell it with a clear head……….
Ok – this might be really pants advice but it’d be enough to make me run for the water and feel a certain relief – and it is the other side of getting blasted, just as real, just as there.August 11, 2012 at 3:55 pm#106452AnonymousInactive
I have heard some very good things about antabuse recently.August 11, 2012 at 4:41 pm#106445AnonymousInactive
I think you will be able to go there and not drink C’est, if that’s what you make up your mind to do.
I’ve never been to Oktoberfest in Europe, but, in the military, we celebrated Oktoberfest every day, wherever we were. You’ve been sober for quite awhile now and I think you can do. For me, I would have gotten ticked off at everyone, in that situation. It would have been too frustrating and if I didn’t drink then, I would had a drink later. But, that’s just me and we’re all diffrerent.
Anyways you’ve gotten lots of good advice and I know you’ll do the right thing.August 11, 2012 at 8:37 pm#106464AnonymousInactive
One night I woke about three or four am, and there was nothing left to drink in the house. I searched every single one of my stashes and found one can of beer. I was rattling bigstyle. Lets see if this is familiar to anyone. I had a decision to make. If I shotgunned the beer I might get ten minutes of feeling ok, then I would have to struggle through 4 hours till 8am when the store opened. Or I could nurse it for maybe an hour, just sipping and taking the absolute worst off my rattling. Then I’d have maybe three hours till the store opened. Of course I chose to shotgun it. Unfortunately, my guts didn’t fancy it, and so I threw the lot back up again – but I knew it was coming and I ran for the kitchen, and threw it up in a pint glass. And I drank the lot back down again, stomach juices and all.
I don’t expect non-alcoholics to understand that. There are many things that non-alcoholics don’t understand. And there are many things, C’est, that become clear and comprehsible when someone acknowledges to themselves that they’re an alcoholic. What other people can do with drink is of no consequence to me. I need to know what I can do with a drink, and what a drink can do to me.
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