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    I am not going to say much..

    I just threw out 30 days of clean and sober living.

    The neurologist saw me today and I lied through my teeth (we are the best liars aren’t we?). He gave me a script for 90 Tramadol and I just downed a handful.

    I am ashamed…I listened to my disease infected brain.

    I have the number for NA and will call for a meeting time/schedule. My daughter is supposed to start preschool Tuesdays and Thursdays and I also have weekends for meetings. I think the only way I am going to get through this is with NA; (if I live to see tommorrow)



    OOOHHH (((Liz))) you have’nt taken too many have you…?

    my b/f takes tramadol for his neck injury…! so i understand alittle about them…!

    You are O.K arent you…???

    just a caring Addict…:Val004:


    I will be ok…I’ll check in tommorrow..


    You can make it, just think possitive. I know a little about what you are going through. I have been on hydrocodone for over a year. I am a family man, like you are a family woman. Neither of us are “typical” drug addicts. I had two serious injuries at work and had to have a total of five surgeries, with metal implanted in my shoulder and back. Two days ago I said “that’s enough” and I quit the hydrocodone pills cold turkey. I know it’s only been two days but you have to start somewhere, and I’m two days closer to being free of this infection that I was two days ago. It is terribly hard and I feel absolutely awful, but I am determined to make it through the withdrawal symptoms and live a better life. Hang in there and be strong….you, and I, will make it.


    I have the number for NA and will call for a meeting time/schedule.

    I am so, so happy to hear this,,:banana: It is very difficult to do on our own..
    That’s why there are groups, they really are successful.. Check out the NA forum, if you have time. They will accept you with open arms. Please, just as we gave our addiction a chance, please give recovery through NA a chance.. It does work if we work it.. :Val004:

    We are here for you.. We love ya Liz..
    I’ll be praying for you tonight.!!! :c016:


    Sorry about your relapse lizrox. The good thing is though that tomorrow is a new day and you can start all over. Please do not look at it like you threw away 30 days, you will let self pity sneak in and that may be the trigger to take you down.

    I would look at it as a test of addicton. Yes, you did fail this test but you can beat it. Sure we arent perfect and sure we all slip up thats why we are human, right? Learn from this liz and please do not go back to it. So you relapsed big deal just throw the pills away. Im telling you, if you dont throw them away then the hell will come back. I’ll be 21 days clean of my doc on friday, though I am on sub I still look at it as being clean from MY DOC. I feel great liz and you made it to day 30 so I’d be envious of you just so I can feel like you did. You only took them for one day so your not going to detox if you stop taking them. Yes, you may crave them but it will pass. Please dont give up liz, I never posted to you but this post of yours came to me. Sorry if I offended you at all in any way Im not trying to be rude but just dont let it get to you please just flush them down. You dont want to be in rehab a year from now and having your kids ask wheres mommy at. Im taking care of 4 kids total now. I have a son and the other three kids are my girlfriends sisters and shes in prison and they ask wheres mommy at. Stop for you but most of all for your kids.

    Im sorry blueline, Im not trying to be rude but what is a “typical drug addict”. I’ve never ever in my life seen a typical drug addict. Some people have the impression that the typical drug addict is poor of lower class, no manners. all that kind of stuff but my friend drug addiction doesnt discriminate. It comes in white and black and red and orange and every color you can think of. Rich and poor young and old it doesn’t matter. I turned to pills due to skin cancer when I was younger and when I went into treatment almost 2months ago there were more upper class cacausion people there than the typical addict. Just remember addiction comes in all forms all colors of life and all walks of life. Im sorry liz for kind of hikacking your post I wont do it anymore but that stood out to me because there is no typical addict that is just an ignorant stereotype that gets me mad. Take care liz and dont give up. Sorry blueline just stating my opinion…..


    Thank you WWM, for that save me saying it …!

    Addiction does NOT discriminate between classes.
    Im offened but thats your opion NOT mine…!

    Good Luck…! you are a typical addict…:(

    an Addict is an Addict sweetie so your not a Typical Addict are you…Hummm…!


    sorry (((Liz)))…X


    Bummer. Isn’t Tramadol also called Ultram? Do those things actually get you high?

    I hope you can get off dope. Life is sure better off dope.


    Yes windy tramadol is a.k.a ultram. IMHO when I took ultram in detox I swear it took away most of my withdrawls. It did make me feel better but I didnt get a high off of it but that is just me. A family member of mine took 13 before at a time because someone told her it would be like a vicodin buzz and she went into a seizure and had to be rushed to the er. Tramadol isnt something to play around with. For some people they can get high, for others they cant.

    My personal opinion is that ultram is like vicodins crazy second cousin. I may be wrong but isnt ultram an opioid. I know you can get just as hooked to it as oxycontin and I know it does take away your pain. Thats the best I can do windy maybe liz will be able to help you better since I dont really know to much about this drug.


    I took some following a minor surgery and it didn’t do much with regards to pain and it certainly provided no opiate-like buzz. Ibuprofen worked better for me. Any time a person takes a handful of anything it is prolly a bad thing….except for, um, never mind.




    it is a synthetic opioid….I look for it to be controlled within the next couple of years…Hopefully…….seems to get alot of people addicted yet is considered non addictive …..

    gotta love the FDA ……..

    I just wanted to say Liz you still rock….shake it off and FLUSH your pills. you can get back on track and have 30 days again in no time…..get to it girl !!!


    Liz, I just want to reiterate what was said before, throw the rest of the tramadol down the toilet. If you quit now, you won’t go through withdrawal. You know that 90 isn’t gonna last long, then what, hon?

    Regarding Tramadol, it does get some people high, it’s not recommended for people with substance abuse issues. I took it way back when for a shoulder injury (Doc said it wasn’t addictive), and it did nothing for me, but I’ve heard horror stories.

    I’m glad you’re checking out NA, what we can’t do alone, we can do together.



    I’m here for ya girl. Get a grip now before you fall any farther. Did you get rid of your scale?

    I’m sorry you are struggling. Let this be a slip, not a fall.



    They gave this to me in my e.d. treatment. It always helps me, thought I’d pass it along. (((….))))

    A Poem by Portia Nelson:

    1) I walk down the street.
    There is a deep hole in the sidewalk
    I fall in.
    I am lost — I am hopeless.
    It isn’t my fault.
    It takes forever to find a way out.

    2) I walk down the same street.
    There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
    I pretend I don’t see it.
    I fall in again.
    I can’t believe I’m in the same place.
    But it isn’t my fault.
    It still takes a long time to get out.

    3) I walk down the same street.
    There is a deep hole in the sidewalk
    I see it is there.
    I still fall in — it’s a habit
    My eyes are open
    I know where I am
    It is MY fault.
    I get out immediately.

    4) I walk down the same street.
    There is a deep hole in the sidewalk
    I walk around it.

    5) I walk down a DIFFERENT street.

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